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Post by TLI-Inferno on Jul 2, 2009 8:35:09 GMT -5
i have not tried it yet, but i already know that when too many options are command-activated it ruins the environment of the game
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Post by AdmiralWarron on Jul 2, 2009 10:43:20 GMT -5
picking up a magical bottle (the quest item) fatals the game. 3 of 3 tries so far
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Post by TLI-Inferno on Jul 2, 2009 14:58:12 GMT -5
yeah there are a few bugs in heroes and empires. many things fatal error the program you never know when it will happen, usually later on in the game.
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Post by TLI-Inferno on Jul 2, 2009 16:33:03 GMT -5
btw guys, im not going to spoil too much of it for you, but sidious is makin some major changes to HaE. ive seen some of them and they are really cool, but you'll just have to wait till he thinks its ready enough to release... the only part that ill say is its got some epic music, the rest ill wait for him to tell you, he never told me whether or not i could say anything about it so *silence* i didnt post this... yeah whatever emperor just cuzz you read this dont mean you cant pretend you didnt.
oh and i made a gross with this post (144)
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Post by Lord ussfletcher on Jul 2, 2009 21:13:01 GMT -5
I'd like to say to dethlord, that when you create a poll it is probably best to leave out 'stupid' options like sexual orientations and the like. Also when you want people to seriously critique your work it may be best to use proper English, you know spell words correctly, use of punctuation, and capitalization. Also, it is probably best to not post about your ridiculous re-skinned version of an obsolete map on the forums that are devoted to the map which you make a mockery of.
I'd like to avoid age bashing, but instead of acting your age on the internet, it is best to act like a mature adult. After all, you are seeking the input and comments from mature adults.
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Post by dethlord on Jul 2, 2009 23:22:44 GMT -5
@ lord ussfletcher it's the internet. GET OVER IT. not everyone uses correct english. It doesn't matter whether you use correct or incorrect english as long as you understand the meaning behind it in the context that it was placed. it's called "a place where no real rules exist" because there are no rules. anything and everything can happen, whether useful or not in the real world the internet is a separate world altogether where communication, usually 70% body language, doesn't happen.
example: jsut bceusae i wirte lkie tihs you can slitl raed it as lnog as the frist and lsat ltteer are crorcet. just goes to show you you need no real "grammar" and "proper english" i hate you fairies that try to portray that. is the fact your telling me going to change anything? no, it's not. all of you lamers that try to shell out that the internet calls for "proper" english is completely and utterly rediculous.
the flaming i am coming under by the few select that don't like the map is mostly rediculous. read this post from another site where i posted the map.
"Loved the override for host ^^ waited for it so long. And THANK YOU a lot for updating this map which i consider as the best of WC3 !"
the map DID need fixing whether you like it or not. however you are entitled to your opinion but if you have something negative to say try not to make it into a flame post.
also, yes my map is re-skinned. what of it? are you trying to say that that is all i've done?? are you really that idiotic that you would portray, unless you actually believe, that i'll i've done is change skins? what kind of ignorant person complains that the map is nothing but a re-skinned version that makes the original map look like a mockery. in all honesty i can tell that you have not played the new map except for looking at the skins and probably thinking "oh it's some scrub hacker noob that just changed skins so he could get credit." and personally i'm getting sick of having to explain this multiple times. how about you act smart like you portray you are and read the posts up until your post BEFORE posting hmm??
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Post by yokokurama on Jul 2, 2009 23:50:45 GMT -5
I think Heroes and Empires Advanced is a good improvement over the old map, personally. I liked the newer skins better, whether or not they were really needed. A lot of the commands are really useful, and my favorite addon to this map was the anti theft system, which is great to have when your playing with people publicly and they like to steal your stuff. The workshop was an awesome addition as well, as builders really needed trade points badly, but without being to excessive with them. Overall, i'd rather play the Advanced version, as the original was a bit "stale" i would say, and these updates were very much needed...:]
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Post by tealninja on Jul 3, 2009 0:16:39 GMT -5
@ lord ussfletcher it's the internet. GET OVER IT. not everyone uses correct english. It doesn't matter whether you use correct or incorrect english as long as you understand the meaning behind it in the context that it was placed. it's called "a place where no real rules exist" because there are no rules. anything and everything can happen, whether useful or not in the real world the internet is a separate world altogether where communication, usually 70% body language, doesn't happen. example: jsut bceusae i wirte lkie tihs you can slitl raed it as lnog as the frist and lsat ltteer are crorcet. just goes to show you you need no real "grammar" and "proper english" i hate you fairies that try to portray that. is the fact your telling me going to change anything? no, it's not. all of you lamers that try to shell out that the internet calls for "proper" english is completely and utterly rediculous. the flaming i am coming under by the few select that don't like the map is mostly rediculous. read this post from another site where i posted the map. "Loved the override for host ^^ waited for it so long. And THANK YOU a lot for updating this map which i consider as the best of WC3 !" the map DID need fixing whether you like it or not. however you are entitled to your opinion but if you have something negative to say try not to make it into a flame post. also, yes my map is re-skinned. what of it? are you trying to say that that is all i've done?? are you really that idiotic that you would portray, unless you actually believe, that i'll i've done is change skins? what kind of ignorant person complains that the map is nothing but a re-skinned version that makes the original map look like a mockery. in all honesty i can tell that you have not played the new map except for looking at the skins and probably thinking "oh it's some scrub hacker noob that just changed skins so he could get credit." and personally i'm getting sick of having to explain this multiple times. how about you act smart like you portray you are and read the posts up until your post BEFORE posting hmm?? This may be the internet, but you're attempting to put yourself into a professional field (amateur mod creation) without having the required respect for it. If you fail to have respect for the English language, many of us who critique your map will have no respect for you or your creations. It would be a different story if your first language was something else, but if it were and you were still using compuspeak, we'd ignore you even further. By only using that fragmented trash version of English, you are segmenting the gaming population based on language, which is despicable. After twenty years (roughly) of attempting to bridge the connection between languages (as it adheres to games), to still have people breaking that by using incomprehensible written word is an affront to everyone else. If you're playing in a public game and people are jacking your stuff, get a storage crate. That's what they're there for. Most times the person is new and NEEDS the items more than you do. Sure, it's annoying to get a rock jacked when you're trying to upgrade your tower, or someone swipes a gem, but most of the time they won't know any better. It is the experienced peoples' job to educate the newer players, especially in a team-centric map like Heroes and Empires. Obviously there are other people that know what they're doing and jack your items to annoy you. That's been called griefing for as long as I can remember. They're present in every game, and there are only two ways to truly be rid of them: identify then and immediately destroy them, or become stronger than them and ignore them. Putting in systems to prevent abuse, especially when there are existing systems available, will not stop griefers from ruining your game. I have yet to see any of the new skins because I have yet to see anyone play hero on that map. The only multiplayer game I had of it was when someone hosted it; coincidentally, that was also when I first downloaded it. The host wanted an Empires only game - obviously with my prior comments, such a game is meaningless. What I do know is that skins will not improve the game; either they'll have no effect, or they'll distract the player. Very infrequently skins have real uses, but those are primarily limited to unique appearances for units that would otherwise use the same base model. If you are keeping track, Heroes and Empires use the same models for different levels of military units; that is because minor model changes would take up large amounts of space for little effect (for instance, what's the difference between a Swordsman and a Master Swordsman? The shininess of his sword?) I don't get fatal errors in Heroes and Empires anymore. Actually, I very rarely ever did. Maybe I have the ideal computer for Warcraft 3; who knows. What I do know is that if you directly download the map from its hosted link on these forums, you have the lowest chance of getting a fatal error. I have played many 3 hour games before, with no fatal errors in them, as hero spamming potion and map quests. I've played games where my teammates and I spammed Temples and mass-summoned demons on Kalenden (a funny, but boring game.) Either people are playing Heroes and Empires after a game with custom User Interface (which can screw up Warcraft's operation) or they have a buggy download. Either way, there are ways to fix it; delete all versions of the map and re-download (to fix the buggy map), and to restart Warcraft 3 after playing maps with custom UI. The latter is generally a good idea anyway. Also, it's not the skins that bother me. It's the fact that you claim you are improving a map, when so far all you've done are little things that have no importance, or have supported either a) broken mechanics or b)hacked versions. Farms are supposed to be large; my buddy and I have almost no challenge when farms are 1x1, even if their efficiency is 1/16th that of a full-size farm. We just make more of them.
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Post by dethlord on Jul 3, 2009 1:41:30 GMT -5
you act as though this is a job interview. really? it's the internet get over it. just because your 30 and require good grammar or your old eyes can't read it doesn't mean it's not legitimate language. stop complaining that i have bad grammar because i don't. i just don't feel like putting in the extra stuff to make it "grammatically" correct. i'm sorry you feel that way but bitching about it like you are will solve nothing. The point is you've drawn away from the topic at hand and tried to nitpick through everything i do trying to insult me however you can. go ahead, it's not going to stop me from making this map. i signed on here to get feedback that was not negative. not get flamed about grammar. do not post anything more besides ideas on how to improve the map. and dont' give me bullshit answers like "stop making it" as those kinds of answers really only regard yourself as a loser that has no life and needs to argue in some forum about something that won't even matter 10 years from now. but what will matter is how you helped the map become better. OR we could piss and moan like you are and get nothing accomplished and rant about things irrelevant. if someone has a grammar issue and cannot understand they will write about it and i'll tell them. other than that you KNOW you can read it you HAVE read it so why does it MATTER? you may post your opinion in a non-derogatory way.
EXAMPLE: i played heroes and empires advanced but it's not that great of a game right now. here's how you could improve it...
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Post by tealninja on Jul 3, 2009 2:57:21 GMT -5
you act as though this is a job interview. really? it's the internet get over it. just because your 30 and require good grammar or your old eyes can't read it doesn't mean it's not legitimate language. stop complaining that i have bad grammar because i don't. i just don't feel like putting in the extra stuff to make it "grammatically" correct. i'm sorry you feel that way but bitching about it like you are will solve nothing. The point is you've drawn away from the topic at hand and tried to nitpick through everything i do trying to insult me however you can. go ahead, it's not going to stop me from making this map. i signed on here to get feedback that was not negative. not get flamed about grammar. do not post anything more besides ideas on how to improve the map. and dont' give me bullshit answers like "stop making it" as those kinds of answers really only regard yourself as a loser that has no life and needs to argue in some forum about something that won't even matter 10 years from now. but what will matter is how you helped the map become better. OR we could piss and moan like you are and get nothing accomplished and rant about things irrelevant. if someone has a grammar issue and cannot understand they will write about it and i'll tell them. other than that you KNOW you can read it you HAVE read it so why does it MATTER? you may post your opinion in a non-derogatory way. EXAMPLE: i played heroes and empires advanced but it's not that great of a game right now. here's how you could improve it... Even if I can read it, why should I assume others can? Why do you knowingly make it more difficult for people whose first language is not English? As well, I stop after about 3-4 sentences of your post, because it's not proper English. If you're not going to try to make yourself understood, we're (or at least I'm) not going to try to understand you. Afterthought edit: Actually read a couple more lines of your post, and you're wrong; this argument won't matter next week, let alone 10 years from now. The amount of effort I put into this was and is negligible; I use proper and complete English as a matter of habit, a habit I developed because other people have trouble understanding the English language. Also, I'm 21, and I'm working on my own maps. They aren't progressing very fast, because I'm currently in a non-creative stage of my personalities' cycle, but one is very well received by my group (so well received that I am asked pretty much every day to work on it) while the others are goofy enough that it's enjoyable just to see how bad they are.
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Post by dethlord on Jul 3, 2009 3:43:13 GMT -5
like i've said i'm done arguing. i'm not going to waste my time arguing with a guy that says he's 21 but acts very childish. if you have something positive to say about the map or a suggestion to improve it post it, other than that be quiet.
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Post by tealninja on Jul 3, 2009 4:00:48 GMT -5
Just so we're clear, first you said that I'm 30, now you're saying I'm very childish? I also gave you a very good suggestion on how to improve Advanced: stop. Also, all-positive critique is useless; if you don't get any negative critique, you'll never be able to improve yourself.
At least try to reply to my entire post. If you're not going to address every point (and to be honest, you didn't respond to a single point), there's no point in coming to a forum. This isn't a centre for self-gratification.
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Post by TLI-Inferno on Jul 3, 2009 10:38:19 GMT -5
lol im sry i dont have the patience to read all of that flaming when he sed all u did was change skins what he meant was all that you did that didnt COMPLETELY ruin was change skins so far everything good in the map are ideas from other people. oh and we got a prob with security, this guy hosted his early version on bnet and we got rigged copies everywhere...
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Post by TLI-Inferno on Jul 3, 2009 10:42:49 GMT -5
if you have something positive to say about the map or a suggestion to improve it post it, other than that be quiet. if you dont accept negative critique then you are childish yourself. the only way to improve something is to respond positively to negative opinions on your products and build on what you make, accepting other opinions (except for when ppl flame, i gotta admit all that flaming from you and ninja was unnecessary and unprofessional. but *points finger* --> you started it ;D
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Post by dethlord on Jul 3, 2009 12:42:21 GMT -5
i'm not saying you can't post negative things. but post them in a manner that is meant to give ideas to improve the map.
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